Re: [TLS] Killing Algorithms
Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU> Wed, 08 April 2015 17:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Killing Algorithms
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, tls-request@ietf.org wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 13:08:45 +0000 > From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> > To: "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [TLS] Killing Algorithms > Message-ID: > <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C73AAFDBA18@uxcn10-tdc05.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> writes: > > ever. There are devices out there still using single DES, and that's > perfectly all right because it's secure enough for what they do. Sure, an > attacker could spend tends of thousands of dollars on a custom-built FPGA DES- > breaker and carry out some high-tech attack to bypass network security > controls and mess with a power substation, but the same would be achieved much > more cheaply by slipping some random guy a bag of weed to throw a bike chain > over a HV feeder. Since I didn't see anyone else mention it, or by paying $100 to a cloud service which is renting out time on their FPGA cracker. No need to build your own unless you need to keep the fact that you're attacking it secret. -Ben
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