[TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> Wed, 26 February 2025 22:00 UTC
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From: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com>
To: Jan Schaumann <jschauma=40netmeister.org@dmarc.ietf.org>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
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All we have for PQC right now is some individual I-Ds using "not recommended" IANA code points. We must have PQC RFCs for TLS and the first step is WG adoption. Cheers, Andrei -----Original Message----- From: Jan Schaumann <jschauma=40netmeister.org@dmarc.ietf.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 1:07 PM To: tls@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3 [You don't often get email from jschauma=40netmeister.org@dmarc.ietf.org. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote: > I wonder: what is the point of adopting this draft when the important work is already done? If it's that some folks won't implement it until there's an RFC number assigned to it, well, that's pretty silly. It may seem silly to all folks who are directly involved here in these discussions, but many software and service providers view a "draft" as immature, not final, subject to change and may not implement until it has an RFC number. For those who are not actively tracking developments in the IETF and standards communities and who are relying on formal publications, this is an important signal. Likewise, for customers of such providers it's a lot easier to inquire "do you implement RFCXXXX" or, for interoperation, to request compliance with an RFC than with a "draft". With that, I support adoption. -Jan _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org
- [TLS] WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid EC… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] WG Adoption Call for Post-Qu… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Christopher Wood
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Christopher Patton
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Joseph Birr-Pixton
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Pos… Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Pos… Mike Ounsworth
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Adoption Call for Pos… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Christopher Wood
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Jan Schaumann
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Mike Shaver
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Jan Schaumann
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Arnaud Taddei
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Andrew Scott
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybri… Kris Kwiatkowski