Re: [TLS] something something certificate --- boiling a small lake

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sat, 27 June 2020 18:18 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>, 'Michael Richardson' <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, 'Nico Williams' <nico@cryptonector.com>, "'Brian Campbell'" <bcampbell@pingidentity.com>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] something something certificate --- boiling a small lake
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>    Ah - Post-Handshake Authentication?

Yeah, that.