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Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)

Dave Garrett <davemgarrett@gmail.com> Fri, 07 July 2017 02:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] An IETF draft on TLS based on ECCSI public key (RFC 6507)
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On Tuesday, July 04, 2017 07:21:44 am Ilari Liusvaara wrote:
>   However, this requires
>   TLS 1.2 or newer, but that should not be a problem.
> 
> - The proposed ciphersuites are really bad.

Just as a clarification, all new RFCs should ideally meet all of the following criteria:
* AEAD only
* PFS only
* TLS 1.2 and 1.3 support
* no TLS 1.0 or 1.1 support (let alone SSL)
* no use of broken hashes (MD5, SHA1, etc.)


Dave

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