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[TLS]Re: Trust Expressions Update

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Mon, 22 July 2024 01:20 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 18:20:18 -0700
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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 6:10 PM Kyle Nekritz <knekritz=
40meta.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> On the surveillance risks, what differentiates trust negotiations from
> other existing negotiation mechanisms? Any negotiation mechanism comes with
> risks that it will be used to negotiate something problematic. It's not
> clear to me why trust negotiation is significantly different in this regard
> to named group negotiation, which also has a lot of relevance when talking
> about mass surveillance risk.
>
> Do you see differences with trust negotiation, or in the specific
> negotiation mechanisms that are being proposed? Or would you have similar
> concerns if, say, we didn't already have named group negotiation, and were
> discussing adding that right now?
>

I'm not sure what the new problem is. Can someone explain that? I didn't
find the IoT explanation very convincing. Aren't these things all on IPv6
anyway?

thanks,
Rob

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