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Re: [TLS] [Ietf-honest] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (KeyingMaterial Exporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Proposed Standard

"Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> Thu, 23 July 2009 20:28 UTC

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Dean and all,

  Good suggestion, but one that should have been obvious to the
IETF long ago.  Better late than never I suppose though...  BTW,
who's representing the IETF these days?  I am afraid I haven't kept
as current on that as well as I should have...

Dean Anderson wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Matthew Campagna wrote:
>
> > Todd,
> >
> >  The official statement is the linked document, we update it from time to time.
> >
> > Regards,
> >    Matt
>
> This is a problem. The official statement is the IPR disclosure, which
> should contain the terms used by the IETF in its decision to approve the
> document. Certicom should not be able to alter the terms after the fact,
> which it seems to have just admitted doing.
>
> I think that we have to consider rejecting documents where the terms are
> not definite and/or can be altered at the whim of the patent holder.
>
>                 --Dean
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