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Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 20 October 2017 16:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00
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On 20/10/17 17:00, Ackermann, Michael wrote:
> Expressly reacting to the viability of continuing to use TLS1.2 forever.

Sorry, that's just misquoting.

Rich asked "why do the WG need to debate this now"
Darin said "we must, because we need snooping..."
I said "no, you can use TLS1.2 and debate this after
TLS1.3 is done."

That is nothing like saying "use TLS1.2 forever."

Please don't misquote like that.

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