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Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS epoch and resume session/handshake
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I'm sorry to insist, but What did you mean by transport level connection 
? For me UDP was a connectionless protocol.

Simon

Le 31/07/2015 18:53, Eric Rescorla a écrit :
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Simon Bernard 
> <contact@simonbernard.eu <mailto:contact@simonbernard.eu>> wrote:
>
>     Thx.
>     What did you mean by connection ?
>
>
> transport level connection.
>
>     A resume handshake is a new connection ?
>
>
> You can also resume when you renegotiate.
>
> -Ekr
>
>
>     Le 31/07/2015 16:54, Eric Rescorla a écrit :
>
>         The epoch is set to 0 at the start of each connection and then
>         incremented
>         with each handshake on that connection.
>
>         -Ekr
>
>         On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Simon Bernard
>         <contact@simonbernard.eu <mailto:contact@simonbernard.eu>
>         <mailto:contact@simonbernard.eu
>         <mailto:contact@simonbernard.eu>>> wrote:
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>             Hi,
>
>               I search in DTLS RFC 6347 if the epoch should be (re)set
>         to 0
>             when we start a resume handshake, or if we keep the last used
>             value, or the last used value+1 ? I can not any clue of
>         that in
>             the spec.
>               Any idea ?
>
>             Thx
>             Simon
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    I'm sorry to insist, but What did you mean by transport level
    connection ? For me UDP was a connectionless protocol.<br>
    <br>
    Simon<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 31/07/2015 18:53, Eric Rescorla a
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:52 PM,
            Simon Bernard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thx.<br>
              What did you mean by connection ?<br>
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            <div>transport level connection.</div>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              A resume handshake is a new connection ?</blockquote>
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            <div>You can also resume when you renegotiate.</div>
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            </div>
            <div>-Ekr</div>
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                Le 31/07/2015 16:54, Eric Rescorla a écrit :<br>
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                  The epoch is set to 0 at the start of each connection
                  and then incremented<br>
                  with each handshake on that connection.<br>
                  <br>
                  -Ekr<br>
                  <br>
                </span><span class="">
                  On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Simon Bernard &lt;<a
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                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                      Hi,<br>
                  <br>
                        I search in DTLS RFC 6347 if the epoch should be
                  (re)set to 0<br>
                      when we start a resume handshake, or if we keep
                  the last used<br>
                      value, or the last used value+1 ? I can not any
                  clue of that in<br>
                      the spec.<br>
                        Any idea ?<br>
                  <br>
                      Thx<br>
                      Simon<br>
                  <br>
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