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Re: [TLS] Enforcing Protocol Invariants

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 08 November 2018 09:35 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Enforcing Protocol Invariants
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Enforcing Protocol Invariants
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>Hmm. TLS has gotten too complex.

What makes you say that?  Please be specific about what you think should be taken out.

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