Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites?
Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Mon, 18 May 2015 16:52 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites?
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On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com> wrote: > On May 18, 2015, at 06:36, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> On May 18, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav@redhat.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 2015-05-17 at 08:42 +0300, Ilari Liusvaara wrote: >>>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 01:02:23AM +0300, Yoav Nir wrote: >>>>> Hi, Jeffrey >>>>> What remains for the TLS working group to do is to adopt a draft for >>>>> ChaCha20-Poly1305 in TLS. There already is a candidate: >>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mavrogiannopoulos-chacha-tls-05 >>>> >>>> The only comment I have regarding that draft is that it doesn't specify >>>> what to stick to record payload. Ciphertext (|P| bytes) || Tag (16 bytes), >>>> right? >>> >>> Hi, >>> I believed that the output format was explicit in rfc7539, but I was >>> wrong. I've clarified that point and hopefully that will be included in >>> the next draft update. >>> >>>>> Once that’s done, the document can both progress and if needed, people >>>>> can request early assignment of identifiers. The ciphersuite registry >>>>> has a “specification required” policy. Strictly speaking, the private >>>>> draft could be enough - we don’t have to have an RFC, but practically >>>>> speaking, this document will only get assignment after it is adopted >>>>> by the WG. >>>> As note, GnuTLS 3.4.x implements (disabled by default) the abovementioned >>>> draft, using CSID CCA0-CCA7 (which are noted in the draft). >>> >>> Indeed, we've added new code points to allow interoperability testing. >> >> So what’s stopping the chairs from polling the group for adoption? >> >> Chairs? >> >> Yoav > > Let’s just say it’s coming in the not to distant future. To quote John von Neumann: "If you say why not tomorrow, I say why not today? If you say today at 5 o'clock, I say why not one o'clock?" > > spt > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls -- "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". --Rousseau.
- [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] Status of Cha-Cha/Poly Cipher Suites? Watson Ladd