[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false claim of consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa
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From: Peter C <Peter.C@ncsc.gov.uk>
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Subject: [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false claim of consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa
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Muhammad Usama Sardar wrote: > The broader IETF consensus is captured in [0], since it is in > the publication queue. > To overturn that broader IETF consensus captured in [0], > proponents have to come up with strong technical arguments, > because the burden of proof here is on the proponents, not > the opponents. I don’t think you can point at an informative section motivating the use of hybrid ML-DSA in one draft and claim that it blocks the use of non-hybrid ML-DSA everywhere else, particularly when there is already a published RFC for non-hybrid ML-DSA from the same working group with the same use case [1]. Peter > Sincerely, > > -Usama > > [0] https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-sigs-19.html#section-9.1 [1] RFC 9881: "Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure – Algorithm Identifiers for the Module-Lattice-Based Digital Signature Algorithm (ML-DSA)".
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Peter C
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Ryan Appel
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Muhammad Usama Sardar