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[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS

Ben Smyth <research@bensmyth.com> Thu, 20 February 2025 10:29 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 at 10:13, Bellebaum, Thomas <
thomas.bellebaum@aisec.fraunhofer.de> wrote:

> > A TLS application interacting with an end-user (e.g. a browser) MUST
> clearly communicate any requests to log TLS secrets to the user and MUST
> NOT indicate a secure connection.
>

The connection is secure. TLS doesn't defend against compromised devices.

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