Re: [TLS] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-tls-downgrade-scsv-00

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Mon, 29 September 2014 21:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-tls-downgrade-scsv-00
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On 29 September 2014 13:06, Bodo Moeller <bmoeller@acm.org> wrote:
> Of course, since this is about fallback retries, it would only affect
> version-intolerant servers; maybe we shouldn't have too much sympathy with
> those :-)

It's not always their fault.