Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13
Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> Mon, 18 June 2018 15:36 UTC
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From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:36:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:30 AM Ben Personick <ben.personick@iongroup.com> wrote: > There is a common thread circulating, that all support for RSA > Certificates/Ciphers are dropped in TLS 1.3. > RSA certificates will continue to work in TLS 1.3+. What will not be supported in TLS 1.3+ is RSA key transport / key encipherment (which lacks forward secrecy, among other problems). However, this is a property of how the protocol does key exchange / key agreement and has nothing to do with certificates. -- Tony Arcieri
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- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Ben Personick
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- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Ben Personick
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Ben Personick
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Ben Personick
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Ben Personick
- Re: [TLS] Mail regarding draft-ietf-tls-tls13 Viktor Dukhovni
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