Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests-00.txt
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Fri, 13 April 2018 03:49 UTC
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:49:26 +1000
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests-00.txt
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Hi Chris, Thanks for sharing this. It's a simple idea and seems generally useful. Do you have a use for the identifier and context? I can see that without them there is no way to distinguish between a response to a request and spontaneous ticket issuance, but I just can't see how that is a problem. I think that you want an extension for this. Otherwise, the server is going to explode when it sees a TicketRequest message. If you have an extension, then negotiating that extension might be used suppress spontaneous ticket issuance. That has a catch though: then a server can't issue new tickets that bind to updated state (such as might happen after a connection migration in QUIC). I don't know how much people care about that trade-off. Sorry I didn't catch these before. Cheers, Martin On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Chris Wood <cawood@apple.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Below is a pointer to a new I-D describing an approach for clients to > request session tickets via a new post-handshake message. This is useful for > applications that perform parallel connection establishment and racing, > e.g., via Happy Eyeballs. It should also help reduce ticket waste. More uses > and details are given in the document. > > We would very much appreciate feedback on the mechanism utility and design. > > Best, > Chris > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Date: April 12, 2018 at 8:07:35 PM PDT > To: David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>, Christopher Wood > <cawood@apple.com>, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>, "Christopher A. Wood" > <cawood@apple.com> > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests-00.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Christopher A. Wood and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests > Revision: 00 > Title: TLS Ticket Requests > Document date: 2018-04-12 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL: > https://www.ietf..org/internet-drafts/draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests-00.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests-00 > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wood-tls-ticketrequests > > > Abstract: > TLS session tickets enable stateless connection resumption for > clients without server-side per-client state. Servers vend session > tickets to clients, at their discretion, upon connection > establishment. Clients store and use tickets when resuming future > connections. Moreover, clients should use tickets at most once for > session resumption, especially if such keying material protects early > application data. Single-use tickets bound the number of parallel > connections a client may initiate by the number of tickets received > from a given server. To address this limitation, this document > describes a mechanism by which clients may request tickets as needed > during a connection. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
- [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-woo… Chris Wood
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Christopher Wood
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Christopher Wood
- Re: [TLS] New Version Notification for draft-wood… Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] New Version Notification for draft-wood… Christopher Wood