Re: [TLS] something something certificate --- boiling a small lake

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Sat, 27 June 2020 23:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] something something certificate --- boiling a small lake
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:51 PM
> To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>
> Cc: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>; 'Michael Richardson'
> <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>; 'Brian Campbell' <bcampbell@pingidentity.com>;
> ietf-http-wg@w3.org; tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] something something certificate --- boiling a small
lake
> 
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 06:17:18PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
> > >    Ah - Post-Handshake Authentication?
> >
> > Yeah, that.
> 
> There's no limit to how many of those there can be, correct?

As far as I know there is no limit.  There are going to be a large number of
arguments about what it means.

Jim