From: Peter C <Peter.C@ncsc.gov.uk>
To: Bertrand Jacquin <bertrand=40jacquin.bzh@dmarc.ietf.org>
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OFFICIAL

Betrand,

Good news+ACE- While draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-mlkem is standards track,
draft-ietf-tls-mlkem is not. Its intended status is Informational.
(https://www.ietf.org/process/rfcs/+ACM-statuses)

Cheers,

Peter


OFFICIAL
+AD4- -----Original Message-----
+AD4- From: Bertrand Jacquin +ADw-bertrand+AD0-40jacquin.bzh+AEA-dmarc.ietf=
.org+AD4-
+AD4- Sent: 30 June 2026 21:57
+AD4- To: Joseph Salowey +ADw-joe+AEA-salowey.net+AD4AOw- tls+AEA-ietf.org
+AD4- Cc: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem+AEA-ietf.org+ADs- tls-chairs+AEA-ietf.org
+AD4- Subject: +AFs-TLS+AF0- Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (End=
s 2026-07-08)
+AD4-
+AD4- Joseph, WG,
+AD4-
+AD4- I have read draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08. For the record: I do not
+AD4- support publication of a standards-track document specifying
+AD4- standalone ML-KEM key establishment for TLS 1.3.

+AD4- +AFs-...+AF0- we are about to publish a standards-track specification=
 +AFs-...+AF0-

+AD4- A WG standards-track RFC +AFs-...+AF0-

+AD4- Cheers,
+AD4- Bertrand