Re: [TLS] no fallbacks please [was: Downgrade protection, fallbacks, and server time]

Xiaoyin Liu <xiaoyin.l@outlook.com> Fri, 03 June 2016 11:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] no fallbacks please [was: Downgrade protection, fallbacks, and server time]
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:33:54 +0300
> From: ilariliusvaara@welho.com
> To: tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] no fallbacks please [was: Downgrade protection, fallbacks, and server time]
> 
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 08:37:34AM +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote:
> 
> > A simpler proposal is:
> > Consider TLS 1.3 as a feature, and negotiate it using an empty
> > extension. If the extension is present a server assumes TLS 1.3.
> 
> Well, AFAIK, in current editor's draft, key_share or pre_shared_key
> is always present and none are meaningful in TLS.1.2.
But they cannot be used to distinguish TLS 1.3 with any future versions, if these two extensions still exist in TLS 1.4, 1.5, ... .
Best,Xiaoyin