Re: [TLS] [tls13-spec] relax certificate_list ordering requirements to match current practice (#169)

mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Tue, 12 May 2015 21:39 UTC

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From: mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex)
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Subject: Re: [TLS] [tls13-spec] relax certificate_list ordering requirements to match current practice (#169)
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Dave Garrett wrote:
> I've added some general additional language to the PR to add more
> detail explaining the changes. If there's anything that needs to be
> changed in order to make this as clear as needed, please comment
> on the PR. (e.g. we might want to add more specifics)
> 
> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/pull/169/files

One of the worst problems in your proposed text is the replacment
of the term "self-signed [...] root certificate authority" with
two bogus occurrences of the term "trust anchor".

Trust anchor is a _strictly_ local concept, so this term
MUST NOT be used in the description of the TLS Certificate PDU.

self-signed root certificate authority is a simple technical term,
that does *NOT* imply trust by any party.

-Martin