Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Renegotiation
Stefan Santesson <stefan@aaa-sec.com> Wed, 25 November 2009 22:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Renegotiation
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I support this. I'm not sure whether the "magic" cipher suite MUST be present. I think both approaches are acceptable but it feels like having it always present may however offer better consistency after all and lead to simpler test cases. /Stefan On 09-11-25 11:05 PM, "Martin Rex" <mrex@sap.com> wrote: > Michael D'Errico wrote: >> >> I think that it would be good to find a unified solution that >> everybody is happy with, and believe that this may be it: >> >> >> 1) Client-to-Server signalling can be done in either of >> two ways: >> >> A) an empty Secure_Renegotiation (SR) extension, or >> B) a "magic" cipher suite >> >> 2) Server-to-Client signal is always an empty SR extension >> >> 3) Incorporate previous verify_data into Finished calc. >> >> >> The particulars: >> >> A client that currently sends any other extensions MUST also >> send the empty SR extension. >> >> A client that currently does not send any extensions MAY send >> the empty SR extension, or MAY send the magic cipher suite. > > > A client MUST send the magic cipher suite. A client that sends > any TLS extension SHOULD send the the emtpy SR extension as well. > > The server MUST check for the presence of the magic ciphersuite > and MUST use secure renegotiation when present. The server > SHOULD NOT complain of absence of SR extension when the > magic ciphersuite is present. > > > -Martin > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
- [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Renegotia… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Stefan Santesson
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Hovav Shacham
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Kyle Hamilton
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Quest for Unified Solution to TLS Reneg… David-Sarah Hopwood