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[TLS] Re: Improving the quality of the discussion on the TLS email list

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Andrew Lee <andrew@joseon.com>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Re: Improving the quality of the discussion on the TLS email list
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Nobody should have to guess at blackbox processes when it comes to the security of the billions of people on the internet. Further, an appeal cannot be conducted when the process which produced the outcome is unclear.

Go read RFC 2418 which describes how IETF working groups work.  And then read RFC 2026 which describes how decisions are appealed. Fillipo was terse, but he was neither wrong, nor unserious.

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