[TLS] Re: Question to draft-ietf-tls-esni 6.2.1.

Christopher Patton <cpatton@cloudflare.com> Wed, 12 March 2025 23:25 UTC

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You might be interested in the draft being discussed here (I believe this
is on the agenda for next week as well):
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/dT5e5F1yWtFbs0dpESsWO-Cg0AM/

There's also this draft, which could be used to probe servers for ECH
support: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tls-wkech-05

Best,
Chris P.


On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 3:30 AM 风扇 滑翔翼 <Fangliding@outlook.sg> wrote:

> Due to the existence of GREASE ECH, for requests made by clients that have
> implemented ECH but do not have a suitable ECH Config, the server always
> fails to decrypt and can choose to send retry config.
> Why not treat this an opportunity to upgrade Plaintext Hello to ECH(if
> certificate verification succeed), but require the client to ignore it?
> Will this lead to a possible vulnerability?
> At present, the initial distribution of ECH Config can only be done
> through DNS. Can't it uses methods similar to mentioned earlier to remind
> clients of potential upgrades?
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