Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tls-downgrade-scsv
Michael D'Errico <mike-list@pobox.com> Fri, 24 January 2014 00:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tls-downgrade-scsv
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Adam Langley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Rob Stradling <rob.stradling@comodo.com> wrote: >> How about stating this "in practice" behaviour as a MUST or SHOULD >> requirement in the draft? > > I don't have the XML for this one, but, if Bodo is around, I think > that makes sense. TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV would be our second SCSV so far, maybe we'll need more of these at some point. Only one of them can be last in the cipher suite list though, so perhaps they SHOULD be placed after all of the 'real' cipher suites, but not at a fixed location. Mike
- [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tls-do… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Ben Laurie
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Ben Laurie
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Yngve N. Pettesen
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… t.petch
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Russ Housley
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Bodo Möller
- Re: [TLS] Call for acceptance of draft-moeller-tl… Yngve N. Pettersen