Re: [TLS] draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility at IETF101

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 14 March 2018 09:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility at IETF101
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Russ,

On 14/03/18 03:03, Russ Housley wrote:
> Stephen:
> 
>>> I do not know if the TLS WG will want to adopt this approach.  I
>>>  would like to find out.
>> 
>> Did you read the list traffic from Oct/Nov? I have no idea how you
>> can be in doubt if you did. It's readily apparent that your draft
>> has not caused a lot of people to change their minds. Do you agree?
>> If so, then the conclusion is obvious, isn't it?
> 
> I see a handfull of very vocal people on this topic and many quiet
> ones. 

Handful? I don't think that's at all accurate.

But we know head-counting doesn't count of course.

My question to you, that you've not answered, was whether you agree
that your draft has not caused any significant shift in positions.

> I hum in the meeting is a meaningful way to find out what the
> quiet people are thinking.

And of course also any people who try pack out the room for any
reason;-(

S






> 
> Russ
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