Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24.txt> (The Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol Version 1.3) to Proposed Standard

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Thu, 01 March 2018 20:15 UTC

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From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24.txt> (The Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol Version 1.3) to Proposed Standard
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I should note that Ben pointed out in the PR that we might need to specify all 6 as recommended.  I can kind of get behind that because before we were doing PSS regardless of the identifier.  Thoughts?

spt

> On Mar 1, 2018, at 09:58, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve submitted the following PR to make sure we answer IANA questions*:
> https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/pull/1159
> 
> One thing I’d like to get input on is which of the RSA-PSS signature schemes should be recommended.  The IANA considerations currently recommends rsa_pss_sha256, rsa_pss_sha384, and rsa_pss_sha512. But, we’ve changed the PSS identifiers to split them so now we’ve got different identifiers that follow and we need to make sure we indicate which ones get marked as Recommended:
> rsa_pss_rsae_sha256
> rsa_pss_rsae_sha384
> rsa_pss_rsae_sha512
> rsa_pss_pss_sha256
> rsa_pss_pss_sha384
> rsa_pss_pss_sha512
> 
> I believe the intent was that we would specify three rsa_pss_rsae as Recommended.
> 
> spt
> 
> * IANA does a review of the IANA considerations section to make sure that they understand the requests we’ve made of them.
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 16:13, The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to
>> consider the following document: - 'The Transport Layer Security (TLS)
>> Protocol Version 1.3'
>> <draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24.txt> as Proposed Standard
>> 
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
>> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
>> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-03-01. Exceptionally, comments may be
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>> 
>> Abstract
>> 
>> 
>>  This document specifies version 1.3 of the Transport Layer Security
>>  (TLS) protocol.  TLS allows client/server applications to communicate
>>  over the Internet in a way that is designed to prevent eavesdropping,
>>  tampering, and message forgery.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The file can be obtained via
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13/
>> 
>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-tls13/ballot/
>> 
>> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>> 
>>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2900/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The document contains these normative downward references.
>> See RFC 3967 for additional information: 
>>   rfc8017: PKCS #1: RSA Cryptography Specifications Version 2.2 (Informational - IETF stream)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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