[TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P-384
Kris Kwiatkowski <kris@amongbytes.com> Mon, 09 September 2024 14:30 UTC
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Subject: [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P-384
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+1. No need for x448. On 09/09/2024 14:29, Filippo Valsorda wrote: > If P-386+ML-KEM-1024 is there for CNSA compliance, I see no need to provide > an Edwards counterpart to it: there is no Edwards National Security > Algorithm Suite. Also, isn't X448 TLS deployment nearly non-existent? > > 2024-09-09 15:16 GMT+02:00 Alicja Kario <hkario@redhat.com>: >> Not explicitly, but it is definied in other protocols, like CMS where it >> was asked for explicitly. >> >> I can remove it, but I think that omiting it will make the document >> appear more biased towards NIST curves than Edwards ones... >> >> On Monday, 9 September 2024 15:09:45 CEST, Bas Westerbaan wrote: >> > Did anyone ask for X448? >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 3:00 PM Alicja Kario <hkario@redhat.com> wrote: >> > On Monday, 9 September 2024 02:04:48 CEST, kris wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I'm sorry, possibly I've missed some emails. >> >> If there is an interest I propose we add it to existing draft, >> >> publish version -03 and request a code point. >> >> The repo is here: >> >> >> https://github.com/post-quantum-cryptography/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem >> >> >> >> Feel free to open PR >> > >> > done: >> > >> https://github.com/post-quantum-cryptography/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/pull/22 >> > >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kris >> >> From: Alicja Kario <hkario@redhat.com> >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2024 12:39:30 AM >> >> To: kris; tls@ietf.org >> >> Subject: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P-384 >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> What's the situation with other groups for TLS 1.3? >> >> Specifically, are there any plans to specify SecP384r1MLKEM1024? >> >> >> >> As mentioned in multiple emails already, high security system >> >> already have a strict requirement to use P-384 curve exclusively. >> >> Similarly, for post-quantum resistance they will be required >> >> to use ML-KEM-1024. >> >> >> >> Will you add it to the draft, or should we start work on a >> >> separate one that defines those hybrid algorithms? >> > >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Alicja (nee Hubert) Kario >> Principal Quality Engineer, RHEL Crypto team >> Web: www.cz.redhat.com <http://www.cz.redhat.com> >> Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkyňova 115, 612 00, Brno, Czech Republic >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list --tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email totls-leave@ietf.org
- [TLS] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P-384 Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… kris
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-m… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-m… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [TLS] Re: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Alicja Kario
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-… Andrei Popov