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[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false claim of consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Wed, 06 May 2026 00:29 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 May 2026 17:29:33 -0700
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I'm not mad or anything, but this is a classic IETF antipattern: declaring
consensus when one is not the chair.

The reason for this concept is that the chairs get off-list feedback too,
and they must evaluate whether a key participant will not go along with a
proposal.

thanks,
Rob


On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 5:25 PM Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL <
uri@ll.mit.edu> wrote:

>
> >>  Considering the ratio of the “objectors” to the “supporters”, the
> consensus seems to be there.
> >
> > Not your job.
>
> What’s next — you’ll refuse to pay me for participation here? 😃
>
> (Besides, the WG chairs, if memory serves, *did* declare consensus — I’m
> merely noting that fact.)
> --
> V/R,
> Uri Blumenthal
>
>
> *There are two ways to design a system. One is to make it so simple there
> are obviously no deficiencies.*
> *The other is to make it so complex there are no obvious deficiencies.*
> *
>            -  C. A. R. Hoare*
>
> *I was a shepherd to fools*
> *Causelessly bold or afraid.*
> *They would not abide by my rules.*
> *Yet they escaped. For I stayed.*
> *                                                  R. Kipling “Epitaphs of
> the War. Convoy Escort”*
>
>

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