Re: [TLS] Updated draft

Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> Fri, 18 December 2009 17:31 UTC

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Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Martin Rex wrote:
> > Marsh Ray wrote:
> >> Robert Dugal wrote:
> >>> Oops, you're right. I misstated what I'd like the draft to allow. 
> >>> What I'd like is the option to always send the SCSV in the
> >>> ClientHello and on renegotiation requests send the SCSV + RI
> >>> extension in the ClientHello.
> >>
> >> That certainly sounds like a reasonably minor change to make.
> > 
> > Full agreement.
> 
> Except Marsh didn't say that. He said:
> 
> > That certainly sounds like a reasonably minor change to make...but it
> isn't.
> 
> Which is totally different.

Marsh made two statements:
 (1) it sounds like a reasonably minor change
 (2) Marsh thinks it is not a reasonably minor change

I fully agree with the first.

-Martin

PS: could we please take discussions about style off-list?