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Re: [TLS] Inclusion of OCB mode in TLS 1.3

Matt Caswell <frodo@baggins.org> Tue, 13 January 2015 18:28 UTC

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On 13/01/15 18:18, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> https://www.openssl.org/docs/misc/OCB-patent-grant-OpenSSL.pdf
>>
>> This is not encumbered by the no military use restriction.
> 
> Arguably worse from the IETF viewpoint because it would be constraining to a particular field of use OR to a particular implementation.  That last half ... no way.

If that was seen as a blocker then its probably worth starting a
conversation with Phil Rogaway. He was very amenable to dealing with the
OpenSSL issue.

Matt

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