Re: [TLS] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-05

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 08 October 2019 10:35 UTC

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On 08/10/2019 11:28, John Mattsson wrote:
> I do not think the TLS WG should ask the WebRTC working group for
> permission, the BCP updates a huge number of RFCs from a lot of
> different groups. These groups were not asked.
IETF last call and IESG evaluation is when each of those
will ll turn out to be an issue, or a non-issue.

Cheers,
S.