Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 draft 22 middlebox interaction

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Mon, 04 December 2017 18:53 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] TLS 1.3 draft 22 middlebox interaction
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 draft 22 middlebox interaction
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    > Adam Langley posted something to this list awhile back, but I can’t find it,
    > sorry.
     
>    I haven't seen him mention any names either
 
I wasn’t clear.  He posted that they weren’t going to post names.