Re: [TLS] TLS Flags and IANA registration policy

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 29 October 2021 19:13 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
CC: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>, IETF TLS <tls@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] TLS Flags and IANA registration policy
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS Flags and IANA registration policy
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  *   I am actually not in favor of changing it to IETF Consensus. I think these have different meanings.

To be clear, I wasn’t expressing an opinion on whether or not to do this, I was just showing folks how to start the change process.