Re: [TLS] [OPSEC] OpSec WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ns-impact

"Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com> Tue, 28 July 2020 22:41 UTC

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From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com>
To: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>, tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] [OPSEC] OpSec WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ns-impact
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Hi Jen,
Yes, yes....and again apologies for missing Tom's comments.  For some reason we (the authors) did not see his email come thru, but I did cover Kathleen's and Jason's comments (and did respond to them when their comments came in).

Will try to do it in the next day or so....
Best, Nancy

On 7/28/20, 3:15 PM, "TLS on behalf of Jen Linkova" <tls-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of furry13@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:07 AM tom petch <ietfa@btconnect.com> wrote:
    >> This email starts the WG Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-ns-impact ,
    >> Impact of TLS 1.3 to Operational Network Security Practices,
    >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-ns-impact/.
    
    > <tp>
    > OPPOSE (yes, I am shouting)
    >
    > This is nowhere near ready and putting it forward so soon is ... well ludicrous comes to mind.
    >
    > After WG adoption, comments were made to which there was no acknowledgement, no response,  I was about to oppose the adoption of the other I-D from these authors on the grounds that until they respond to comments nothing else should happen because when they do there are more comments waiting to be aired.  I am still of that view.
    
    Sorry, it's partially my fault. I did explicitly ask the authors to
    address your comments and submit a new version. I should have
    double-checked that the new version incorporates the feedback.
    
    Dear authors, would you be able to address Tom's comments ASAP so the
    new revision can be reviewed during the WGLC?
    
    > I do see that a revised I-D has just appeared in among the thousand or so I-D that appear around the time of an IETF meeting, a timing that I sometimes think is designed to let it slip through unnoticed.  Given all those other I-D - silly authors - it may be more than three weeks before I get my thoughts together.
    
    Just to clarify: would you prefer not to have the WGLC around IETF
    weeks at all?
    
    -- 
    SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
    
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