IETF Logo Mail Archive

[TLS] Re: [IANA #1419884] expert review for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-rrc (tls-extensiontype-values)

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Fri, 30 May 2025 13:06 UTC

Return-Path: <sean@sn3rd.com>
X-Original-To: tls@mail2.ietf.org
Delivered-To: tls@mail2.ietf.org
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C283F2EBF2C9 for <tls@mail2.ietf.org>; Fri, 30 May 2025 06:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ietf.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.099
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: mail2.ietf.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sn3rd.com
Received: from mail2.ietf.org ([166.84.6.31]) by localhost (mail2.ietf.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vysBUgJ4qMxD for <tls@mail2.ietf.org>; Fri, 30 May 2025 06:06:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qt1-x82a.google.com (mail-qt1-x82a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E37CA2EBEF7A for <tls@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 May 2025 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qt1-x82a.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-4766cb762b6so21582941cf.0 for <tls@ietf.org>; Fri, 30 May 2025 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sn3rd.com; s=google; t=1748610144; x=1749214944; darn=ietf.org; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Prt5DXwlKVZMewpJP2xpFADmBxkjKqG387bSPWkNZDc=; b=ghGv3NvS5vaqAyB0Xs/bgQhQSgPJtl+5ZxK4SDRqOFWSo0MwnaqBSsK2ltgZRcoB9s clvhX5ld5EHHFdee9W2cisn0mguRI3i7L1/bdZc3s436N/IPyumqFEXlEjWO3iZHAABb K5I6fqMp/AkjWkgGLhwQ73yiARx2ZMV81AJt0=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1748610144; x=1749214944; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Prt5DXwlKVZMewpJP2xpFADmBxkjKqG387bSPWkNZDc=; b=F/U8k8yAlp+Nf2LQMgbo5iNPiVLmLGDgrnBV5o55YoQF6y9zCUvCmPhtTioRXdIxub Drg8h4usFv8PfjPuwgXWyI3aKkV+Vgh+GULAG8IG7u0pohkm+CQy/3+NOnOHYidM/hMX M12TVFsfjmBohRVTtu+XI1EAFrAK4jaVGFWotLlKwmJqT4dkicyAl0Y+ajmbz5jfyQyv oVd7DpWim6tciXzQwqKLf54UYXF/zU5HV4ZCbxVouqBDRN7MquYE6koJSKkBAoeFW4Vu P54s5NaxR9ORp38tR2lPmzNxKrnrOBN+jFpPgd2tyA5nB+GB2wX34egLCefUZj+LwRgs 570A==
X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUlJdnOaxh9ggPBXcxFdmYa0XHvuvxNilYhKfV1fdLGT0OWkudsLnvDpMvkQdCekVfmO20=@ietf.org
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyUgK230zBQ+k5pUfTHsN/9LwSU2k2ttrJC8WdvNXUVDOgJ8rc3 /RYOjVgLHkTykFdPJSNbDsJ+qB3/9WKYgrN4x8WMattWpIyOYiQnpII0MhcMpQKojmQ=
X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsRaJwclJmVywe6oVWr/erdLe6VZU4O2e357xjdMc4ljxjk3POXB2eYuKii8bV cKJLIMDdgw4h8g8v3KqnUVJIAJsKyxODba9ejhalxhUgK3LUAIC2ApVWDNkAGUufZSZ2TEiEBWB KJ/j/lxCdl6oZADSDQIJecM6Ag1fVKHUwZasEadOXaWO6zNfBa0K3rtesbjR521plN150an90fL o2ipm2cGYBh4ouD8mKKkRhXpFdibsfhZ05Dz8rj8sQ6+rYZ08D6Zk2mov/xCu2+DjaPbUKEVGBr YHo4oQFmb1NhlokFLiyFDyRgr0uZtteIFbttMOsUomCJa0uniL3JqrMvnPr28PR3Ptem7ry4jwe t8mLOSwXRGJn1FLLc51T+MCk=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFDREJr87silPnoC5hDi3/da5le1P3tNJMaE5O3feyDLD/KScasoWBi3NzHSgqO7H05h4lPCw==
X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:1925:b0:494:731c:8746 with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-4a4437dffcdmr36859611cf.23.1748610144362; Fri, 30 May 2025 06:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2600:4040:252a:8d00:e927:cbb8:2596:7b25]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d75a77b69052e-4a43588a466sm19622611cf.19.2025.05.30.06.02.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 May 2025 06:02:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Message-Id: <3E9C479C-DECE-4AC6-938C-39B892F473AE@sn3rd.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_61D6FE39-5F84-4D00-8944-B2B3D6FF993E"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.600.51.1.1\))
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 09:02:03 -0400
In-Reply-To: <03D86410-BD2F-4DF9-8941-72898A6A6591@sn3rd.com>
To: Thomas Fossati <thomas.fossati@linaro.org>
References: <RT-Ticket-1419884@icann.org> <rt-5.0.3-771993-1748389585-210.1419884-9-0@icann.org> <rt-5.0.3-776217-1748394957-1627.1419884-9-0@icann.org> <IA1PR17MB642175ACD5AEA66CB57271DBCD67A@IA1PR17MB6421.namprd17.prod.outlook.com> <m6b3v4ogzomyvplgn7fj6aa33ecj7qwhbr3ixqfexdjhaoumkk@pt5ktqrjmqx3> <v52rp7vxxkjaymwb6mzgh274mvplsm5ouasfjuqeycblmaihs7@si3lsihcjkxy> <gavxagncdjhcxcl56u4kvyjbjcqzdapy2nabyq2b5xbk3cee7v@tnramx3zqpkk> <IA1PR17MB6421A0CB65C558C527761025CD66A@IA1PR17MB6421.namprd17.prod.outlook.com> <CABcZeBPjurrxDn-VF0ZgwnAe=MnjXDOaRxjtxq8BLPKDCrcLKw@mail.gmail.com> <emeh5syrhxkyhh5t2e2ij2kg3ccphcwtd62jpyokrzv4yvdiwm@r7uwl4rfnm73> <ydsim7ifwplygvqwd43hdud6q3352bmqn3t52uikwlxc5brqiy@twmb3bn4mhwj> <03D86410-BD2F-4DF9-8941-72898A6A6591@sn3rd.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.600.51.1.1)
Message-ID-Hash: 36VX2PCJHJTG5KISLHWZBSYISTBOZC5C
X-Message-ID-Hash: 36VX2PCJHJTG5KISLHWZBSYISTBOZC5C
X-MailFrom: sean@sn3rd.com
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tls.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: "drafts-expert-review-comment@iana.org" <drafts-expert-review-comment@iana.org>, TLS List <tls@ietf.org>, Nick Sullivan <nicholas.sullivan+ietf@gmail.com>
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6
Precedence: list
Subject: [TLS] Re: [IANA #1419884] expert review for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-rrc (tls-extensiontype-values)
List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." <tls.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/hCAkZML4LitsNZTNUth6UeED_Kk>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls>
List-Help: <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:tls-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:tls@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:tls-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:tls-leave@ietf.org>


> On May 30, 2025, at 08:59, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2025, at 08:00, Thomas Fossati <thomas.fossati@linaro.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 07:24:02PM +0100, Thomas Fossati wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 10:11:43AM +0100, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>>> Let's do what we've done elsewhere and mark these RECOMMEND=N
>>> 
>>> I think I like this.
>> 
>> Should we go with EKR's proposal, then? (DE + recommended column.)
>> 
>> If there are no objections, I'll prepare the PR.
> 
> If we can’t think of a reason to be different, then I think it makes sense to be like the others.

I forgot to mention that since one of these is a new registry we should try to make sure we have all the same note decorators we have on the others. Checkout the -rfc8447bis repo:
https://github.com/tlswg/rfc8447bis
Either way I will review the PR to makes sure we’re all lined up.

spt

v2.37.1 | Report a Bug | By Email | System Status