Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01

Jeremy Harris <jgh@wizmail.org> Sat, 08 July 2017 16:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01
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On 08/07/17 13:36, Yoav Nir wrote:
> They also don’t want to install TLS proxies all over the place.  That’s a large extra expense for them.

The predicated architecture - tappable inside, non-tappable outside the
enterprise - requires exactly that.
-- 
Jeremy