Re: [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat resulting from IESG review
"Dan Harkins" <dharkins@lounge.org> Mon, 05 December 2011 17:04 UTC
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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:04:24 -0800
From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
To: Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav@gnutls.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat resulting from IESG review
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On Mon, December 5, 2011 1:37 am, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Joe Salowey <jsalowey@cisco.com> wrote: >> Some changes were made to the document as part of IESG review. Â The >> revised document and diffs can be found here: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat-04.txt >> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat-04 >> One of the requested changes was to randomize to the data in the >> heartbeat message to attempt to head of any issues occurring from weak >> or flawed ciphers. Â Since the change was relatively simple, the >> document was modified even though modern ciphers should not have a >> problem. Â Flaws may be discovered in one of the many cipher suites in >> the future. > > Are there any papers or cipher documentation discussing how using > randomized data in a packet would solve possible future cipher flaws? Check out "Deterministic Authenticated Encryption"* by Rogaway and Shrimpton. It defines a cipher mode for key-wrapping but the proof of security (appendix C) is based on the notion of randomized data in the packet-- i.e. that part of the data (the key) being wrapped is random. They also treat this new cipher mode as a general IV-based authenticated encryption scheme that has the property of misuse-resistance (section 7). regards, Dan. * http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/papers/keywrap.pdf
- [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat re… Joe Salowey
- Re: [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbea… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbea… Dan Harkins
- Re: [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbea… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Changes to draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbea… Dan Harkins