Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS
mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Mon, 14 October 2013 12:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS
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Johannes Merkle wrote: > > While the current discussion on this list is about ECC, > I would like to raise the question if it were not desirable to > allow usage of provably secure RSA-PSS signatures from PKCS#1v2.1 in TLS. > > Of course, an issue with this idea is that, if we replace DHE_RSA and > ECDHE_RSA with DHE_PSS and ECDHE_PSS, we end up > with a whole bunch of new cipher suites. An alternative could be a > new extension signaling the RSA version used (with > PKCS#1v1.5 as default). > > Any thoughts on that? RSA-PSS would apply only to the DHE_RSA variants, for the vanilla RSA ciphersuites, one would need RSA-OAEP instead, and it seems that using a traditional RSA key/cert for both, signature and encryption is somewhat incompatible with RSA-PSS/RSA-OAEP -- when signaling is through the AlgorithmIdentifier in SPKI of the entity certificate. Having to support two seperate server certificate (different by algorithm) would have a huge impact on - TLS implementations - administrative UIs - server administration procedures - CA procedures What exactly is the real and serious problem that such a HUGE change would be trying to fix? -Martin
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Santosh Chokhani
- [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Hanno Böck
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Florian Weimer
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS CodesInChaos
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Fedor Brunner
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Hanno Böck
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Hanno Böck
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Using RSA PSS in TLS Peter Gutmann