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[TLS] Re: Confirming Consensus to Progress The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 11 April 2025 15:53 UTC

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Hiya,

On 11/04/2025 16:43, Sean Turner wrote:
> Hi! At IETF 122, the chairs took a sense of the room about whether
> to progress draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile. There was consensus to do so
> [0]. We need to confirm that on-list. If you disagree with the
> consensus please let us know, and why. We close this call at 1159
> UTC on 29 April 2025.

You can probably make a wild guess as to my position:-)

 From [0]:

"
Do you object to moving forward with the publication of the
SSLKEYLOG draft?

yes: 4
no: 22
no opinion: 18
"

I was one of the 4. I think I've explained why on the list
already so won't repeat myself.

Cheers,
S.

> 
> Cheers, spt
> 
> [0] see minutes: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-122-
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