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Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*

Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com> Fri, 02 December 2016 17:45 UTC

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From: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov@microsoft.com>
To: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, David Benjamin <davidben@chromium.org>, Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>, "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*
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Not that I can speak for the whole of Microsoft, but I would not drop TLS support in Windows if it were renamed "SSL":).

However, "transport layer security" makes a lot more sense to me than "secure sockets layer" because the latter seems to imply network socket-style API, which is not a requirement of this protocol.

Cheers,

Andrei

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From: TLS [mailto:tls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Gutmann
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> writes:

>IIRC that was sort-of a condition for adoption of the work in the IETF 
>20 years ago, when there were two different protocols already being 
>deployed and the proponents of one of them said "we'll use that other 
>one (SSL) but you gotta change the name of the standard or we can't get 
>our <bosses> to agree to change to all use the same thing."

It was Netscape with SSL vs. Microsoft with PCT.

If no-one from Microsoft has any objections, can we just rename it back to what it's always been for everyone but us, SSL?

Peter.

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