Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm and
Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> Thu, 15 December 2011 19:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm and
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Joe Salowey wrote: > > The chairs would like to see if there is consensus in the TLS working > group to adopt draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm and draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-ecc > as working group items. > > Please respond to the following by December 14, 2011 : Sorry, I'm late. > > - Do you object to taking these drafts on as working group items? While I do not object, I do not see a need for these to become WG items. I believe they could remain individual submissions and still be discussed in the WG. But I want to leave any decisions to those who intend to contribute to that work. > > - Would you contribute time to review and provide text for the > documents when needed? Unlikely. > > - Do you object to standards track status for these documents? Yes, I do. I am not aware of a rationale why they *should* go on the standards track. We are not actually short of TLS ciphersuite proposals. Standards track should be reserved to documents that are considered generally useful and where it is intended to recommend implementing them and where the WG has the commitment to drive the document through the whole standardization process (i.e. beyond PS). With respect to the "2 maturity levels" discussion on the ietf mailing list, the reason why there are so many RFCs at proposed and only very few progressing further is a lack of both, commitment by the WG to work the document further and lack of general usefulness of a non-marginal part of those documents. -Martin
- [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-… Joe Salowey
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Don Sturek
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] 答复: consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… zhou.sujing
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Dan Harkins
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Don Sturek
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Rene Struik
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Robert Cragie
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] consensus on adopting draft-mcgrew-tls-… Robert Cragie