Re: [TLS] heads-up: ALPN ID allocation for NTP security with "Recommended" as "Y"

Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> Wed, 11 March 2020 01:25 UTC

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:25:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: [TLS] heads-up: ALPN ID allocation for NTP security with "Recommended" as "Y"
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I note that the exporter has "DTLS-OK: Y", but DTLS is not otherwise
mentioned in the draft.  Is there an anticipated need for NTS-KE to use
DTLS?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 8:17 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz=
40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> >    (Is TLS the de-facto owner of ALPN? There are some issues being
> discussed elsewhere that might affect future registrations.)
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> I believe the TLS designated experts think so :)
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