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Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Fri, 02 December 2016 09:36 UTC

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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
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Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> writes:

>The way I’ve heard it “SSL” is a registered trademark owned by Netscape (now
>AOL), so we can’t use it unless AOL lawyers sign off on that. It might be
>wrong, but if it’s true - good luck with that.

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4810%3Ajoxwrl.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=ssl&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query 

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3A16epd1.1.1&p_search=searchstr&BackReference=&p_L=100&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=SSL&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24ALL&expr=PARA1+and+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=security&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24ALL&a_default=search&f=toc&state=4805%3A16epd1.1.1&a_search=Submit+Query

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4805%3A16epd1.4.1&p_search=searchstr&BackReference=&p_L=100&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=%22secure+sockets+layer%22&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24ALL&expr=PARA1+or+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24ALL&a_default=search&f=toc&state=4805%3A16epd1.4.1&a_search=Submit+Query
    
Doesn't look like it.  And even if it was, Netscape's failure to defend it
against infringement by half the planet would probably make its enforceability
dubious.

Peter.

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