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Re: [TLS] TLS Flags and IANA registration policy

Achim Kraus <achimkraus@gmx.net> Sun, 31 October 2021 08:28 UTC

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Hi List,

a lot of things have already been written.

So I'm not sure, if my e-mail from September last year could be
considered as well.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/pY6JDDb_WxBfgGbYh15vCS7sQQQ/

It's about, when replacing a "Y" with "N", then put also the period of
the "Y" amended to the "N", e.g. "N (was Y 2010-2019)".

best regards
Achim Kraus

Am 30.10.21 um 04:47 schrieb Sean Turner:
> I actually think we’re going to try to do this 8447bis:
> https://github.com/tls-stuff/rfc8447bis
> We need to get it adopted, but that’s on tap for this IETF (or should be).
>
> spt
>
>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 17:16, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, we certainly can change it in 8446-bis.
>>
>> My put here would be: let's get consensus on the *semantics* we want for the various categories without worrying about the names (call them A, B, C, etc.) and then we can name them after.
>>
>> -Ekr
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 2:14 PM Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Thanks for the background.  I still sympathize with Hannes' point that
>> "Recommended" means "IETF Consensus".  I have to explain this
>> too often in the insular automotive industry.
>>
>> But I certainly wouldn't write an RFC to change the title of a single
>> column in an IANA registry.  I've been one of the Designated Experts
>> for the IANA Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) registry for 20 years and
>> we rename IANA fields as needed by a direct request to our IANA
>> folks (after consensus in the IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group IPP
>> WG - successor to IETF IPP WG in the 1990s).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 3:18 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>> Previous discussion is on this issue: https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/issues/1214
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:13 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
>> 	• I am actually not in favor of changing it to IETF Consensus. I think these have different meanings.
>>
>>
>> To be clear, I wasn’t expressing an opinion on whether or not to do this, I was just showing folks how to start the change process.
>>
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