[TLS] Re: ML-DSA in TLS

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 19 November 2024 02:28 UTC

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Hiya,

I totally understand the commercial imperatives that cause
people to want to adhere to what governments would like to
see the IETF standardising, but...

On 19/11/2024 01:43, someone wrote:
> NSA is confident

The above, and similar arguments that NIST or BSI or whomever
would like X, does not mean there's a good technical argument
for X. However, if we ignore the technical arguments for and
against X (as we seem to be doing) we will not be serving the
best interests of the Internet, nor of the people who use it.

So, I'd encourage us all to please try prioritise the technical
arguments for and against each thing, and to not forget that
national signals intelligence agencies have a demonstrated
history of trying to use their influence to game this system,
as is inherent in their various charters.

Cheers,
S.