Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA key Transport from TLS 1.3
Viktor Dukhovni <viktor1dane@dukhovni.org> Tue, 06 May 2014 15:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA key Transport from TLS 1.3
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On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 11:13:18AM +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 10:23 -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > You're probably thinking of: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gillmor-tls-negotiated-dl-dhe-02 > > > This seems like a reasonable kind of thing for the WG to > > consider, > > I believe that this draft addresses the existing concerns with the DH > ciphersuites I'm aware of, and would be very good if the TLS WG would > adopt it. Other collections of DHE groups work in a subgroup of order "q", where log(q) ~ 2^{security factor}. This speeds up the arithmetic. (Squares can be reduced modulo the much smaller q). Is there a reason to avoid those? Problems with constant-time implementation? Other concerns? -- Viktor.
- [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA key Tr… Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
- [TLS] On axing DHE (was: Re: Confirming Consensus… Rene Struik
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Trevor Perrin
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Hanno Böck
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Jack Lloyd
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Paul Bakker
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Hanno Böck
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Paul Bakker
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Andy Lutomirski
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision [was: … Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision [w… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Henrick Hellström
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision [w… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Samuel Neves
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Samuel Neves
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision Liz meeks
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision [w… Fedor Brunner
- Re: [TLS] Negotiated Discrete Log DHE revision [w… Fedor Brunner
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Confirming Consensus on removing RSA ke… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos