Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix.
Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Tue, 29 April 2014 22:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix.
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Adam Langley <agl@google.com> wrote: > Without a fix for the Triple Handshake issues[1], TLS Channel Bindings > (at least tls-unique) have a significant problem, not to mention > client-auth. tls-unique is fine provided resumption isn't broken. Resumption is broken. There is a proposed fix[2] that IMO is correct and works. Of course, apps need to know when tls-unique is safe, but since it's only not safe when using TLS implementations where resumption isn't safe... there's not much that can be done other than to disable tls-unique at build time or find a way to detect safety at run time. > Microsoft and ourselves are looking to implement the proposed fix[2] > soon. I'd like to request that the WG adopt the draft and that the > process for early codepoint assignment for the TLS extension start. +inf > [2] https://secure-resumption.com/draft-bhargavan-tls-session-hash-00.txt Yes. Nico --
- [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Alfredo Pironti
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Triple Handshake Fix. Bodo Moeller