Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Sun, 22 October 2017 23:35 UTC

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:35:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00
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On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:26 PM, Steve Fenter <steven.fenter58@gmail.com>; wrote:
> I have been saying to anyone who will listen that the IETF needs a private forum for enterprises, to enable them to come forward and discuss their real requirements. Without this input the IETF is trying to architect and engineer solutions without knowing the complete set of requirements, at least on the enterprise side.  This results in sub-optimal design decisions (from an enterprise perspective), which in this case will break mission critical enterprise monitoring and troubleshooting systems.

The reason we don't have that is that designing secure protocols in secret isn't a trustworthy approach.   Of course, you can always get together privately.