[TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-03.txt
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Tue, 18 March 2025 13:06 UTC
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Subject: [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-03.txt
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 05:30:36PM +0700, Kris Kwiatkowski wrote: > Thanks for reporting that (again). Indeed, I was hoping this text > could be added to draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design. > > Please, let me know if this text properly addresses your concern: > https://github.com/post-quantum-cryptography/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/pull/35 I know that John has been quite vocal on this point, but does it actualy reflect WG rough consensus? In https://github.com/post-quantum-cryptography/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/pull/35#discussion_r2000985130 I ask: Why not document the pros/cons and let implementations decide? Some clients (server-to-server routine traffic) have no reason to, and get no benefit if they do, avoid session linking. Why shouldn't they amortise the cost of key generation via reuse of ML-KEM ephemeral keys? -- VIktor.
- [TLS] FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Peter C
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… Dang, Quynh H. (Fed)
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-e… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe… Bas Westerbaan