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Re: [TLS] Consensus call on Implicit IV for AEAD

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sat, 04 April 2015 14:08 UTC

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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:07:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Consensus call on Implicit IV for AEAD
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On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Brian Smith <brian@briansmith.org> wrote:

> Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net> wrote:
> > In the interim meeting we had consensus to use an implicit IV for AEAD.
> The
> > proposal was to use the record sequence number and pad with zeros as
> > described in pull request 155
> > (https://github.com/tlswg/tls13-spec/pull/155/files).  This was also
> > discussed in the IETF-92 meeting in Dallas along with options to change
> the
> > offset.  The consensus was to stay with the original proposal.  We are
> > posting to the mailing list to confirm this consensus. If you have
> comments,
> > please reply by April 17, 2015.
>
> Right now, based on my reading of the draft minutes,


Which draft minutes are you referring to? I only see interim minutes
on the site.



> it doesn't look
> like there was a complete, reasoned discussion of the issue during
> IETF 92, nor is it clear to what extent any kind of consensus or
> agreement was expressed during the meeting. Perhaps the draft minutes

are incomplete, but the statement that there was a consensus to stay
> with the original proposal doesn't seem consistent with draft minutes.
>

You can find the discussion (which may or may not be complete or
reasoned) at:
http://recordings.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=IETF92_TLS&chapter=chapter_0

Starting at around 2:37:30.

The consensus call starts at around 2:44:30.

-Ekr

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