[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Fri, 28 February 2025 18:56 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
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In response to the WG adoption call, Dan Bernstein pointed out some potential IPR (see [0]), but no IPR disclosure has been made in accordance with BCP 79.  Additional information is provided here; see [1].

BCP 79 makes this important point:

  (b) The IETF, following normal processes, can decide to use
    technology for which IPR disclosures have been made if it decides
    that such a use is warranted.

WG members can take this information into account during this adoption call to determine if we should adopt these drafts. If this information changes a view that you have already expressed during this WG adoption call, please post a follow-up message. We also extend the WG adoption call to 14 March 2025.

Reminder:  This call for adoption has nothing to do with picking the mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS.


Cheers,
Joe and Sean

[0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/mt4_p95NZv8duZIJvJPdZV90-ZU/
[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spasm/GKFhHfBeCgf8hQQvhUcyOJ6M-kI/

> On Feb 26, 2025, at 1:26 PM, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> 
> At IETF 121, the WG discussed “Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3”; see [0] and [1]. We also had some discussion in an information gathering thread; see [2]. We would like to now determine whether there is support to adopt this I-D. If you support adoption and are willing to review and contribute text, please send a message to the list. If you do not support adoption of this I-D, please send a message to the list and indicate why. This WG adoption call will close at 2359 UTC on 12 March 2025.
> 
> One special note: this adoption call has nothing to do with picking the mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sean & Joe
> 
> [0] Link to I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/
> [1] Link to slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-tls-post-quantum-hybrid-ecdhe-mlkem-key-agreement-for-tlsv13-00
> [2] Link to information gather thread: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/yGZV5dBTcxHJhG-JtfaP6beTd68/